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<p>Sam Harris speaks with Stephen Marche about his book <em><a href="https://amzn.to/47gXs9E" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">The Next Civil War: Dispatches from the American Future</a></em>. They discuss tensions between the United States and Canada, what a modern American civil war might actually look like, the key risk factors for a civil war, diversity and immigration, extremism on the right and the left, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the assassination attempts on President Trump, conspiracy theories, how a civil war might be avoided, the possibility of secession, and other topics.</p> <p>If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p>