<p>Tommy Caldwell’s experience being held captive in Kyrgyzstan unlocks a new state of mind that propels him to become the greatest big wall climber of all time.</p> <p>This conversation first aired in 2021. It is a companion episode to the one we ran last week about Beth Rodden’s experience of the same trip: “<a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/a-slight-change-of-plans/a-climber-loses-her-grip">A Climber Loses Her Grip</a>.” Same “Slight Change of Plans”, but <em>wildly different reactions.</em> </p> <p>You can check out Tommy’s memoir <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-push-a-climber-s-search-for-the-path-tommy-caldwell/14691879">here</a>, and Beth’s memoir <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-light-through-the-cracks-one-climber-s-path-through-tragedy-recovery-and-embracing-imperfection-beth-rodden/20255446?ean=9781503903791&next=t">here</a>.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.co...