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<p>A tech mogul who made bank from Paypal with his Stanford buddies and has endeared himself to right-wing politicians and enriched himself the same way? No not him; this one’s South African..no, not <em>him</em> either.</p><p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/ryan-mac"><u>Ryan Mac</u></a>, reporter for the New York Times. </p><p>Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus"><u> slate.com/whatnextplus</u></a><u> </u>to get access wherever you listen.</p><p>Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.</p><p> </p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>