How to measure AI developer productivity in 2025 | Nicole Forsgren

How to measure AI developer productivity in 2025 | Nicole Forsgren

Published on Oct 19
4068
Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
0:00
0:00
<p><strong>Nicole Forsgren</strong> created the most widely used frameworks for measuring developer productivity—DORA and SPACE. She wrote the foundational book <em>Accelerate</em> and is about to release her newest book, <em>Frictionless</em>, a practical guide for helping teams move faster in the AI era. She’s currently Senior Director of Developer Intelligence at Google.</p><p><strong>We discuss:</strong></p><p>1. Why most productivity metrics are a lie</p><p>2. Signs that your engineering team could be moving much faster</p><p>3. Why AI accelerates coding but developers aren’t speeding up as much as you think</p><p>4. AI’s impact on engineers getting into “flow”</p><p>5. Her framework for building and scaling a developer experience team</p><p>6. The three components of developer experience: flow state, cognitive load, and feedback loops</p><p>—</p><p><strong>Brought to you by:</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://mercury.com/"><strong>Mercury</strong></a>—The art of simp...