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<p>这是一期迟到的播客</p><p>我的朋友菜菜，和她的品牌“一桌菜YIZHUOCAI”接连登陆上海设计周、米兰设计周，也和湖南博物院开展合作</p><p>所以我找了个时间，和她随便聊了聊</p><p>主播：乔霂之</p><p>嘉宾：菜菜</p><p>音乐：Aqua—坂本龙一</p><figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/Fmi5R6n8UII8D6r1ni1gAuS1WhL0.jpg"/></figure><p><img src="https://bts-image.xyzcdn.net/aHR0cDovL2ltYWdldjIueG1jZG4uY29tL3N0b3JhZ2VzLzNmYTQtYXVkaW9mcmVlaGlnaHFwcy82OS84Qi9HS3dSSUpFS1d5TmFBQXl1MmdMcldvN3cuanBnIW9wX3R5cGU9NCZkZXZpY2VfdHlwZT1pb3MmdXBsb2FkX3R5cGU9YXR0YWNobWVudCZuYW1lPW1vYmlsZV9sYXJnZQ==.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large"/><img src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/f445-audiofreehighqps/1A/75/GKwRIasKWyNkAASp9gLrWpUi.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large"/></p>