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<figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/lup_FOSihzJuPWzFdiDITI5gr65G.png"/></figure><p>下载节目文字版: <a href="https://pan.baidu.com/s/1e6xTdusNQpHJGKkw2_WDEg?pwd=k5b4">Transcripts</a></p><p><br>What happens when a vegan bodybuilder meets a former vegetarian with tough questions?In this episode, I sit down with Asher, a passionate plant-based entrepreneur, athlete, and food advocate.<br><br>As someone who was vegetarian myself for years, I came into this conversation genuinely curious—and skeptical—about some of the louder claims around veganism.We didn’t always agree. In fact, that’s what made this conversation so powerful.<br><br> From fitness and muscle-building without meat, to deeper ethical and environmental questions—this is a rare, unfiltered discussion about how to live consciously in a world full of noise.👇 Jump to key moments:<br><br>00:00 – Intro<br>04:30 – How veganism came into Asher’s life<br>08:17 – You don’t need meat to build muscle<br>10:55 – Do plant proteins differ f...